Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

02/08/2018 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HJR 31 CONGRESS REVERSE FCC ON NET NEUTRALITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 31 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HCR 2 RESPOND TO ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 2(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 224 REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIRED TEACHERS & ADMIN TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 168 REPEAL ADMIN. REG. REVIEW COMMITTEE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 168 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HCR 10 UNIFORM RULES: REGULATION REVIEW TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCR 10 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
         HJR 31-CONGRESS REVERSE FCC ON NET NEUTRALITY                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
4:16:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that  the final order  of business                                                              
would be HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 31, Urging  the United States                                                              
Congress  to  overturn  the  Federal  Communications  Commission's                                                              
order ending net neutrality.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:16:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS opened public testimony on HJR 31.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEON JAIMES  testified that he has  enjoyed a career of  nearly 20                                                              
years in  the field of information  technology (IT);  he currently                                                              
works as  an information security  consultant; he  related various                                                              
work  experiences  in the  IT  field.   He  said  that  as both  a                                                              
business  and individual  customer of  internet service  providers                                                              
(ISPs), he has  watched ISPs capitalize on consumer  demand in the                                                              
form of data  caps, long-term contracts, termination  fees, and at                                                              
times manipulation  of internet traffic, as was  seen with Comcast                                                              
Corporation  ("Comcast")  throttling  (indisc.) traffic  in  2008.                                                              
He  said  that he  has  an  expert understanding  of  the  network                                                              
architectures  and  technologies  that allow  ISPs  to  accomplish                                                              
these   feats,  as   well  as   direct   knowledge  of   technical                                                              
configurations   used  by   ISPs  to   configure  their   provider                                                              
networks.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JAIMES  maintained that  neutrality and  open and  free access                                                              
to  the  internet  is fundamental  to  democracy;  net  neutrality                                                              
ensures  a level  playing  field  for small  business,  individual                                                              
entrepreneurs,  and private  citizens.   He  expressed his  belief                                                              
that  net neutrality  is vital  to  ensuring that  the ability  to                                                              
limit  free  speech  is  not something  available  to  ISPs.    He                                                              
further  asserted  that  Alaska   is  unique  in  that  innovation                                                              
utilizing network  connectivity to the  global economy is  a vital                                                              
and untapped  resource that  can fuel  economic growth  in Alaska;                                                              
net  neutrality  facilitates  and protects  that  opportunity  for                                                              
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JAIMES  relayed  that across  the board,  one thing that  most                                                              
networks  with  which  he  has   worked  have  in  common  is  the                                                              
inability  to keep  pace with  information security  threats.   He                                                              
added,  "It's  not even  close."    He  opined  that the  lack  of                                                              
information security  controls often borders on negligence  and is                                                              
truly alarming.   He mentioned that  his biggest concern  with net                                                              
neutrality  is that  it  opens the  door  to  ISPs capturing  more                                                              
sensitive  and personal  data about  consumers;  currently an  ISP                                                              
can  capture  data under  the  auspices  of troubleshooting.    He                                                              
related that his  phone call to testify is one of  those pieces of                                                              
data.   It  is  (indisc.) and  transmitted  via  the standard  ISP                                                              
networks, and  the data package  that comprises phone  calls, text                                                              
messages,  and multimedia  Short  Message  Service (SMS)  messages                                                              
are very likely being captured for troubleshooting purposes.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JAIMES concluded  by saying that his concern is  that the ISPs                                                              
do not  have the  capability to  secure the  data that  they would                                                              
capture if  net neutrality is left  [repealed].  More data  can be                                                              
collected  on consumers;  data that  is collected  can be  stolen;                                                              
and once it is stolen, there is no way to recover it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TARA RICH,  Legal and  Policy Director,  American Civil  Liberties                                                              
Union  (ACLU) of  Alaska, testified  that the  primary concern  of                                                              
ACLU  is the  censorship that  ISPs  can have  on internet  users,                                                              
which is  already occurring throughout  the country.   She relayed                                                              
examples  of this,  as follows:   American  Telephone &  Telegraph                                                              
(AT&T) Inc. censored  a live Pearl Jam concert  stream in response                                                              
to criticisms  of [then]  President George W.  Bush by  the band's                                                              
lead singer, Eddie  Vedder; in 2007, Verizon  Wireless ("Verizon")                                                              
blocked  text   messages  from  the  pro-choice   advocacy  group,                                                              
National Abortion  and Reproductive  Rights Action League  (NARAL)                                                              
Pro-Choice   America   because   Verizon   deemed   them   to   be                                                              
"controversial";  Telus Corporation,  a Canadian Telecom  company,                                                              
blocked the  website of  a union  with which it  was engaged  in a                                                              
labor dispute.   She said that  there are numerous  other examples                                                              
of  telecom  companies  using  mechanisms  that  would  have  been                                                              
regulated  under  net  neutrality.     These  mechanisms  include:                                                              
using  tools  to  block certain  websites;  engaging  in  what  is                                                              
called  "throttling"  or  intentionally  slowing  down  access  to                                                              
data; and paid prioritization for certain websites.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RICH maintained  that ACLU  has very  serious concerns  about                                                              
inhibiting free speech  through the internet.   The internet plays                                                              
a  special role  for  free speech:   it  is  decentralized; it  is                                                              
neutral;  it is  non-discriminatory;  it relays  information  from                                                              
source  to  destination; and  it  promotes  open discourse.    She                                                              
added that  it allows  people from  their homes  to have  an equal                                                              
chance  to be seen  and heard.   She  said that  the U.S.  Supreme                                                              
Court has  recognized that anyone with  a phone line can  become a                                                              
"town crier"  with a  voice that resonates  farther than  from any                                                              
(indesc.).  She  emphasized that the internet has  changed the way                                                              
people communicate and receive information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:23:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICH  stated that the two  ISPs in Alaska have  indicated that                                                              
they  don't  intend  to violate  net  neutrality  rules;  however,                                                              
Alaskans  may be  at  the  mercy of  what  other ISPs  -  Comcast,                                                              
Verizon,  or Time Warner,  Inc.  - would do,  because Alaska  uses                                                              
the  networks  its two  ISPs  use  throughout  the Lower  48  and,                                                              
therefore, has no control.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:24:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  stated that Ms. Rich mentioned  two ISPs and                                                              
asked for  confirmation that  nationally  there are multiple  ISPs                                                              
and service options for consumers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. RICH answered  that's correct and added that the  two ISPs she                                                              
referenced to are  the main two providers for  internet service in                                                              
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  stated that he  does not support HJR  31; he                                                              
has  faith  in  the  commercial   markets  and  competition.    He                                                              
offered,  "If  you're unhappy  with  a  level  of service  from  a                                                              
provider ... you  move on to a competitor"; therefore,  the public                                                              
is protected.   He relayed that  he served on an  electric utility                                                              
board for nine  years; everyone has electricity  coming into their                                                              
home but  is charged  differently according  to use.   He  said he                                                              
struggles with Alaska immersing itself in the commercial market.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:26:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KNOPP  stated that  he  supports  HJR  31; he  has                                                              
received  communication opposing  the  proposed legislation  based                                                              
on  the belief  that  every state  should not  adopt  its own  net                                                              
neutrality  laws   -  the  same   issue  as  came  up   with  Uber                                                              
Technologies  Inc.   He  mentioned  that  it  was brought  to  his                                                              
attention  that without  net neutrality,  an ISP  provider with  a                                                              
good  relationship  with  Netflix,   Inc.  but  not  with  another                                                              
entertainment company,  might slow down  the one company  in favor                                                              
of the other.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:27:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS closed public testimony on HJR 31.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:27:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK stated  that  he supports  HJR 31  as a  good                                                              
consumer    bill;    infrastructure,    such    as    power    and                                                              
telecommunications,  must be  for the common  good and  regulated,                                                              
because the  public relies  on that  infrastructure for  advancing                                                              
society,  making  progress,  and  making  sure  its  business  and                                                              
economy  are thriving.    He maintained  that  the  internet is  a                                                              
vital resource for  economic opportunities.  He said  that when he                                                              
uses a great deal  of data on his cell phone,  he gets charged for                                                              
it; when  he uses  a great  deal of electricity,  he gets  charged                                                              
for it; with  net neutrality, he  can access anything he  wants on                                                              
the "information highway."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  moved to report HJR 31 out  of committee with                                                              
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote  was taken.  Representatives  Wool, LeDoux, Tuck,                                                              
Knopp, and Kreiss-Tomkins  voted in favor of reporting  HJR 31 out                                                              
of committee.  Representative Birch voted against it.                                                                           
Therefore, HJR 31 was reported from the House State Affairs                                                                     
Standing Committee by a vote of 5-1.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HCR002 Sponsor Statement 2.22.17.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 ver J 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Fiscal Note LEG 02.02.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Article ABADA.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Article ABADA-AMHB.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Article CDC Injury Prevention & Control Division of Violence Prevention.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Article Felitti.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Article Yosef.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Letter of Support AK Resilience Initiative 1.9.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR002 Supporting Document- Letter of Support Planned Parenthood 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR2 Supporting Doc - ABADA AK Mental Health Board -ACES 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR2 Supporting Document DeLozier 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HCR 002 Additional Document- Presentation on Overcoming Adverse Childhood Experiences in AK 02.05.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 2
HB168 Sponsor Statement-01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168-Sectional Analysis-01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168A 01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168-Fiscal Note LEG-02.02.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168-Additional Document- Leg Research-Meetings-01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Additional Document State v ALIVE Voluntary summary and headnotes-2018 01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HB168 Additional Document- Statutes Cited 01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 168
HCR 10-Sponsor Statement-01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 10
HCR10A 01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 10
HCR10 Fiscal Note LEG-02-02-18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 10
HCR 10 Additional Document-Uniform Rule 20-01.22.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HCR 10
HB224 Sponsor Statement 2.7.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Sectional Analysis 2.7.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 ver .J 2.07.18.PDF HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Fiscal Note 2.02.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document - List of School Districts Providing Letters of Support 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document- Letters of Support 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document- Vacant Position Listings 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document-Cost of Teacher Turnover 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document - Resolution Submitted by AASB 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
SB 2
HB224 Supporting Document JPS State Issues 2018 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document Letter from Craig City School District 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document- Letter from North Slope Borough School District 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HB224 Supporting Document Letter from Anchorage School District 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/15/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 224
HJR31 Sponsor Statement 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 ver A 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31-LEG-SESS-02-02-18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 14 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 15 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Dec. 15 Article NPR 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Governor's Letter 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Attorney General Lindemuth 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Congressional Delegation 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Letter to Senator Murkowski 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Portugal Payment Package Example 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-Rep. Kawasaki Letter to Governor 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Documents 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Documents-Fraudulent Comments from Alaska 02.05.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Documents-Groups Apposed to Reversing Net Neutrality 02.05.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Documents-Pew Study 02.05.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document-University of Maryland Survey 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Additional Document-Dec. 13 Article Business Insider 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Additional Document-Jan. 4 FCC Order 1.29.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document- ATA Net Neutrality Letter to House State Affairs HJR31 2.06.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Documents-Letters of Support 2.07.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document- Letter from Soldotna High School Student Body President 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Supporting Document ACLU Testimony 2.08.18.pdf HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Additional Document- ATA Net Neutrality FAQ 2.06 18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31
HJR31 Additional Document- ATA Net Neutrality Letter to House State Affairs HJR31 2.06.18.pdf HSTA 2/6/2018 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 2/8/2018 3:00:00 PM
HJR 31